What do you like best about wearing stockings?

– Dear ladies and gentleman of the forum. What do you like best about wearing stockings? I find I love the feel of FF stockings. They are so silky soft they are a real treat to my legs. I also love the pull of the garters on my stockings. Does anyone else find this to be what they like best about wearing stockings?

– I would be other than a true gartered nylon stocking-clad legman were I to fail to respond to your inquiry. While I agree with both the quality and effect to which you allude regarding gartered nylon stockings, I would add that the utter allure of the touch-me shine of the nylon stocking is absolutely mesmerising. In addition, the virtual complete lack of stretch in the fabric renders a woman’s encased legs molded, firm and solid.

To slowly and passionately caress the well-proportioned, full, supple, shapely contours of a woman’s legs sheathed in smooth, very, very sheer, nylon stockings is an act in which I can engage for h o u r s…

– Thanks for responding, it’s good to hear what the men like about stockings. Come to think of it, I do like the shine of the FFs on my legs and often do touch my legs a great deal when sitting. I have noticed that the FF stockings outshine all others. The softness is my greatest attraction, I just can’t get over how soft and silky they feel on my legs. Then add to that the pull of the garters and it’s great. I think my husband’s reaction to the FF stockings is he likes the seams. I’ve noticed on a few occasions that he walks slightly behind me at times when I have on my FF stockings.

– As for another male’s opioion… I love to see stockings on a lady when she is outside and the sun is shining on her legs. The sun makes the nylon glisten, and that is just so sexy. Seeing a nyloned leg just glistening in the sun is fantastic. I just can’t keep my eyes off of them.

– I’m glad you mentioned the pull of the suspenders/garters. It must be a very sensual and delightful sensation. Do any of the other women members feel the same? As a man, I could mention the wonderful variety of textures – e.g. the fine stocking, the soft flesh of the thighs, the elastic and metal clasps of the suspenders (if the older type of suspender is worn, as it should); all in such a small area. Pantyhose or bare legs can’t match it! Also visually, the general colour of the stocking, the two-tone effect of the welt, the curve of the suspenders over the buttocks and thighs, and the arc created by the tug of taut suspenders… But one could go on and on!

– Some years ago one of the girl models in our English men’s magazine Mayfair said that she found that having stockings and suspenders on made her feel “very fruity” because she knew that underneath her skirt there was the uncovered gap between the tops of the stockings and her panties. I found this sexier than the pictures, even though she looked cute in her sussies. I suppose that it gave her an improper feeling of nudity in public. My former girlfriend said she felt funny when she first sat down in suspenders but later on rather enjoyed the pulling of the rear straps. She also enjoyed the “unprotected” feeling of wearing very wispy see-through panties with suspenders.

– I have to say the bumps. I run my hands down my legs as well for the smooth feel, but my favourite thing about stockings and suspenders is the bumps. It’s a comfort feeling to thumb them through my skirt. I’m only afraid that my skirts will develop faded bump circles, kind of like wallet-pocket…

I’m a guy who has worn stockings under business wear in cooler weather for decades. I love all of the things mentioned by the posters. I love the feel in the morning as I pull the long filmy stockings up first one leg and then the other, and then fastening the six garters tautly. I love the way the garters pull on the stockings, and the feel of the straps as they move with each step. I love the gentle leg massage that only comes with a gartered stocking. And finally, I love the wonderful feeling that under my clothing, I’m wearing stockings, and nobody knows.

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The man who will only date women in nylon

– Dear Doctors Nylon out there: what am I to do? It appears I will only ask out women who wear nylon. Recently I eschewed making an approach to a couple of quite attractive women. The reason? Their ungodly bare legs. And, as more and more women adopt the bare legs look, this obviously narrows the field for the kind of women I will go out with. Still, I persevere. Believe it or not, there are still a few women out there who coat their legs in sheer nylon. And I will continue – almost quixotic like – in my quest for them.

– May I assume that, in the best of all worlds, you would only date women who wore stockings? So, I am taking from your post that you will face reality and accept that such women are exceedingly rare these days. (I am told that these goddesses comprise about 2% to 5% of the general female population.) You, like so many of us, have decided that to have a love life at all you will choose to date women who wear “nylons” of any ilk, i.e. tights and avoid women who are bare-legged. There, now I think I’ve got your point. Right?

My comment is as follows; I think you have it backwards. Instead of looking at the legs to determine their covering or lack thereof prior to making a dating decision, look instead at the total package and then determine if there is a real attraction.

Suppose you found an exceptionally attractive (intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, physically) young lady who shared your general interests, tastes and pastimes. Suppose this woman was always barelegged. But, in all other respects, she was quite outstanding. Choosing not to date her simply because she was not nylonically enlightened would be cruel. Indeed, this woman is a potential convert. You have a mission my friend to spread the good news!

From my personal experience it may be easier than you think. I am currently dating a Russian woman who never wore stockings. She was barelegged the first time I saw her. She is now completely enlightened and a strong advocate of our mutual fetish. She wears stockings every day. I have had similar experiences with several ladies. But, I have found that it is far easier to persuade foreign women to wear stockings than the domestic variety, at least here in the USA.

But, avoid a woman who will wear stockings only as a favour to you. This may seem like kindness and love on her part at first but it will soon become bartering. She will soon try to “trade” wearing stockings for some other consideration or concession on your part. And, you will soon find that the price of having her in stockings is quite high, maybe too high. Avoid these women. They keep score. You can never win. Besides, there are more than enough women out there who, once used to the joys of stockings, truly want to wear them for themselves. These are the best kind.

By the way, breaking up with a woman you have introduced to stockings is one of the worst break-ups of all. You lose a confirmed stockings wearer, a great little lovemaker, an accomplished flirt and you just know that some other man is going to enjoy her nyloned charms without having earned it. You also know how much easier it will be for her to attract a man once he sees that stockinged leg and bit of thigh. No woman teases like a woman in stockings. It changes her entire outlook. She reeks of self-confidence.

– My god, you could not make more sense!

– I don’t know… honestly, I’ve never had any trouble with getting the woman in my life to wear stockings and a garterbelt. All I’ve ever had to do is ask them and/or buy them some beautiful items… and voila!

For everyday, no… some of the women I’ve been involved with had jobs where it wasn’t practical but for the most part, no problem really.

– Thanks for your replies. To clarify, I am referring to nylons generally, not just stockings (in that case I’d pretty well never find anyone!). I agree that this is certainly an alternative approach: convert the barelegged woman to wearing stockings (or pantyhose). And it is something I have considered. I’m not quite sure why I’m so resistant to it. Maybe I think that a woman who is not wearing them somehow “in her being” lacks the kind of femininity and style I am looking for, and that if I have to “convert” someone it will be something of a battle, no matter how subtle. I’d rather approach someone who is “sufficiently feminine” in this respect, who dresses a certain way because she “loves” dressing that way – that it is “integrated into her soul” and who indeed dresses this way “for herself” – and therefore does not have to be converted, engendering possible interpersonal grievances for being somehow “made to change”. As I say, I’ve “got it” pretty bad – which I humorously call a malaise – hence my light-hearted appeal to “Doctors Nylon” on this site. But, hey, anything is possible.

Yes, trying to convert a woman is always a possibility, and perhaps I shy too much from doing it (though lord knows I’ve gone out with enough women in the past who were nylonless) but I find many women are resistant to “being converted” (so-called feminism and all – “I’m my own woman”, “nobody is going to tell me how to dress”). Therefore, I’d like to approach women who don’t need “to see the light”. I also find women who already dress this way sexier because they’ve “integrated” this style of dress as part of their core natures, as the people they truly are.

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Bare legs: fashion trend or another step away from elegance?

– Last evening my wife and I were guests at a charitable-recognition dinner hosted at the mansion of one of Atlanta’s highest profile athletes.

The event was a fundraiser to help Atlanta’s youth, and the honorees included many of the city’s most recognized athletes, television, radio, and entertainment personalities. In short, the fund raisers billed the event as a “must to be seen”.

The event exceeded my expectations for fare and entertainment. My disappointment was seeing so many beautiful women bare legged. Few – my guess is one of five – were clad in sheer hosiery.

Only one woman in her 20s was among the ladies in hosiery. This beautiful lady was dressed in an above-the-knee silk dress that draped her very fit body elegantly. She wore strappy sandals and very sheer hosiery.

My wife commented during our ride home about the “hard femininity” of so many of those at the event. One guest even attended in the all-black look with black hip-hugging pants.

I found it ironic that so many women wore 3-4 inch slides to enhance their femininity. But, it didn’t seem to remove the “hard edge” look.

I seek feedback. Is the bare-legged look a fashion trend that will come around, or is it another step in the lazy, casual-downing movement? I’m worried I am part of a “damned” generation. I missed the elegance of garters and stockings when I came of age, because micro minis and convenience were being accommodated by tights/pantyhose.

Now it seems convenience is taking what softness was left in femininity. Are those of us on this forum “lost in the past”, and out of touch with reality? Or, are there real signs that fashion will return to elegance?

– Some various thoughts…

1) Increasingly I’m finding that men are dressing better than women! What a turnaround this is. There are still a lot of men wearing classic suit styles, only the cuts and colours are better than ever. And ironically the ‘casual workplace’ look I think has upgraded men’s wear. Dressy casual has ‘cottoned’ on and given men a higher standard for dressing, even if they don’t have to dress so formally – or ‘because’ they don’t have to dress so formally.

2) The bare-legged look seems to grow and grow, and appears also to grow in tandem with the ‘all black’ clothing look. The hosiery industry simply isn’t fighting back.

3) ‘Hard femininity’ – that’s a good term for it. I’m not quite sure what the appeal is here? I think a lot of younger women particularly want to appear tough – in their personality and style, and maybe current fashion trends manifest this.

– “Hard femininity” – that’s an excellent description!

When I walk through the city in the mornings – and Boston is lovely early in the day – I see all these young, attractive women, first with no stockings on their legs and secondly, with the most heinous, unflattering shoes as well! It almost seems as if they’re willing to wear what is popular, without giving a thought to “does it suit my body shape? ”

They seem as if a look from them would cut a jagged hole in you. They don’t have any softness to them, and the clothing nowadays seems to discourage any celebration of womanly curves – the things that drive men wild.

Do you see the interesting paradox? They want to attract attention, but not the kind that will think them soft and weak. As if femininity is a weakness. And then those same women lament that they can’t find a husband.

Women have been looking soft and feminine for generations and still getting stuff done. Do we have to sacrifice one for advances in the other?

I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade, but I think this no-hose look is one we’re all going to have to get used to.

– Luckily I live in the midwest where seeing beautiful young women in nylons is apparently more common than on the coasts. Last night, I counted a total of five women in a small bar that were wearing nylons. They were mostly nude in colour. My girlfriend’s were dark tan. There were even some open toed shoes with nylons. Not too bad at all.

– Being in the Atlanta area, and in business, but was not lucky enough to have an invitation to the event, I was saddened to hear about the state of affairs.

Yes, I agree with “hard femininity” and all it brings. I liken it to the backlash of an era when women were treated as frail things, however, that hasn’t happened since the late ’60s (in my opinion). This current generation and their fondness for the bare-legged look with unflattering shoes is hopefully a phase before we turn back toward elegance for women. Admittedly, it is a phase that is strong and has a lot of momentum.

I also think it is “coastal” (both). I have spent a lot of time in Texas and Arizona and even in the summer I saw plenty of attractive and stylish women (all ages) wearing nice hose and proper shoes.

It is sad and damnable that we will probably have this look for a while. Where I disagree is in blaming the look on hosiery companies not fighting back. I blame it on those psycho “fashion designers” who have every model bare legged in every show. They’re telling people this is fashionable.

– I agree. I think the targets for our real wrath should be the fashion designers. But I still scratch my head at the seeming inability of the hosiery industry to mount any type of counter-offensive. Don’t clothing manufacturers have any cachet with designers? Can’t they “pay” anyone to model their clothes? Can’t they “pay” for high-profile product placements in movies, for celebrity guests on talk shows? Can someone please explain this to me? I don’t understand why the hosiery industry rolls over and plays dead.

– You make a very good point I hadn’t considered. Even though the fashion designers are to blame, the hosiery industry doesn’t take a stab at it.

I don’t want to go off on a rant, but I have contacted a large number of hosiery manufacturers and simply put, they aren’t into “rocking the boat”. A number of responses were canned “thank you for contacting us” but an equal number were basically “we are considering it but don’t see it being a move at this time”.

What I took this to mean is simple retail business; “as long as the product is selling, don’t mess with it. ” These companies sell a lot of hosiery already. Spending more and promoting something that isn’t currently popular outside a niche is not something they are willing to do.

– I work with young ladies and yes, even here in New Zealand, I am disgusted by the way that they dress these days. Many of them don’t even know how to put on a skirt or a dress, let alone a pair of stockings. In fact, many girls in the town in which I live in wouldn’t even know what a pair of stockings looked like. Every now and again you will get someone who takes pride in being a lady by throwing away the hideous trousers that they are into these days and puts on a lovely dress or skirt and top, complete with stockings and heels.

– During the ’80s, I was a manager for a furniture manufacturing firm in High Point, NC.

Hosiery firms surrounded High Point, and I was surprised that few marketed their products direct, but simply manufactured to specs for “front companies” that followed fashion trends.

When the company I managed started manufacturing under license for designers, I understood the business model of hosiery firms.

The business model of reacting to fashion trends captured by designers is less risky than marketing your products. It is also more profitable to make exactly what a client orders to spec – no excess inventory.

The majors mostly market to support their retailers, (ie. Hanes co-op ads with their larger retailers) and their advertising contribution is directly tied to the size of the retailer’s order.

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Dreaming of stockings

– I am having a tremendous phenomenon occur. Every few nights I dream about stockings and suspenders. This has been going on for several months. Does this happen to anyone else?

– It is odd that you mention this, because just last night I had a stocking-sighting dream in which I was part of some tour group, and somehow caught a sighting of the tour guide revealing a stocking top and garter straps. And all I could think of was how I just *had* to report this stocking sighting to the Stockings HQ discussion list! Alas, I can’t really remember any other details from the dream. It got a bit surreal (as most dreams do).

– I envy you those dreams! If you are the same woman who, a few days, wrote that you had been wearing stockings and suspenders for six months, thanks to the encouragement of a man in your life, I’d suggest your dreams are of awakening to full womanly sensuality. But I could be quite wrong! Anyway, keep dreaming of them!

– It looks like you might be right. Yes, I’ve been wearing them for only six months. There’s an interesting range of themes:

Exposure – I’m falling off things exposing my stockings and suspenders.

Intimacy – I’m in black corsetry with black stockings and kissing three different men.

Loss without them – I’m trying to get to events and cannot find my stockings.

And probably the best and most hilarious was a very simple dream where a pair of pantyhose on clothes pegs hovered beside my bed and then were suddenly sucked underneath to disappear forever into the darkness.

In any case, I am very appreciative to have been exposed to them.

The appeal of reinforced toes

– I have always loved reinforced toes – and it’s even better if they’re with reinforced heels – particularly poking through open toed shoes or sandals. As you know, many so-called contemporary fashion experts tell women these days to buy ‘nude-toe’ stockings because reinforced toes, they say, are ugly or tacky. In fact, CNN did a consumer segment on nylons about a year ago, and, among other things poked fun at reinforecd toes (ie. “aye, my toes are a different colour from the rest of my feet”!). They also evaluated the new form of “no toes” stockings to wear with sandals, so it looks like the woman is not wearing stockings at all because her toes are uncovered. Shriek! Of course you and I know reinforced toes are the sexiest part!

– I cannot believe I’m not alone! I have been told this fetish for large reinforced toes is one of a kind! I have collected nylons and pantyhose for years and am always looking for huge reinforced toes that are very dark and contrast with the leg. In the mid to late ’80s I sourced a brand of pantyhose called Albert’s and the style was “control top plus”. The “plus” was a very large heavier reinforced toe. Well once I saw these I purchased many pairs (about 350 pairs) and am now down to about 150 pairs and starting to hunt for a replacement. I have also noticed a move in the fashion world to eliminate the so called ugly or tacky reinforced toe. If we go back to the ’50s, women wore open toed mules with RHTs for all to see and it was not considered ugly.

– I love those reinforced toes (even when they’re not enormous). Too bad the trend seems to be away from them. It wasn’t enough to make “sandal toe” hose, now they’re coming out with a new pantyhose which has the toe section cut out altogether… probably the result of the preoccupation with feet that is rampant in the media today in America. They think it is sexier to expose the toes, but I feel just the opposite, and I’m sure you would agree…

There is a preoccupation in magazines about showing actresses with exposed feet. What’s with that? Is this a new form of foot fetish? But of course, of course, none of these women are ever shown in stockinged feet. Although at one time – perhaps as recently as five years ago – some would have been so depicted. I think this unfortunately is because current fashion trends consider it gauche to show exposed feet in nylons.

Suspenders and garters: a matter of language

– I’m intrigued by the different effect on me of the word ‘suspender’ and the transatlantic ‘garter’. If I read, or especially hear from the woman, the word suspender or suspender belt, I get a strong erotic charge, just from the sound. I don’t, however, get the same feeling from garter or garter belt – even though they are the same thing. I guess the sound and the meaning become woven together early on in life. What do others think?

– Same here! I know just what you mean. For some reason the word ‘garters’ or ‘garter belt’ just don’t do anything for me, even though I know exactly what they mean. On the other hand, the words ‘suspenders’, ‘sussies’ or ‘suspender belt’, whether in print or spoken (particularly by a woman) cause me instant and intense arousal. I’m glad you’ve brought this point up, because I thought I was the only one. Any more comments on this theme, anyone?

– I agree with both of you. Mention of suspenders, suspender belts and sussies quickly turns me on, but garters and garter belts only produce mild “excitement”. I also agree that it is even more of a turn on when the various references to suspenders are spoken by women, or written by women in postings here or in the chat zone.

I think the phrase which has me feeling erotic in an instant is “my stockings are very heavily suspendered”. Thoughts of stocking tops stretched heavily by extremely taut suspenders immediately invade my imagination. Funny that “my stockings are very heavily gartered” don’t have the same effect!

– To me, I’d always heard the term garter belt. I had never heard the term suspenders until a British lady working in a lingerie shop in Phoenix introduced me to the term. I thought wow, that’s different and I guess appropriate. But I like the term garter and garter belt best.

– Can you imagine being “turned on” when a women tells you she’s wearing braces? Probably not. But, here in the USA, suspenders are what you call braces in the UK.

We in the USA recognise the term for the article of lingerie which holds up a woman’s stockings as a garterbelt. On the other hand, we recognise the term for the accessory which holds up a man’s pants as “suspenders.”

“Sussies” is a uniquely British term and it seems to me only natural that hearing it (especially from a woman) would stimulate the imagination (and some other of the nether regions) of an Englishman. However, to my American ear, a beautiful woman telling me that she is wearing suspenders only brings to mind a somewhat masculine image of a woman wearing what you call braces. Decidedly unerotic wouldn’t you agree?

I know that when I have read British erotica and have encountered the term “suspenders” it has had a somewhat cooling effect. Not the effect I was hoping for. I imagine it must be the same for my counterpart on your side of the pond when you read American erotica and in the middle of an especially heated passage find the term “garterbelt”

Someone once observed that the English and the Americans were two great peoples separated by a common language. I don’t even want to tell you of my problems with “knickers” and “waspies!”

– I’m a Canadian with a British lover. Always I have heard the term ‘garterbelt’. But since my lover is practically in love with stockings and suspenders, I’ve probably heard this term far more times in the last year and a half than I’ve heard ‘garterbelt’ over all the years prior.

I now find that I often use the word suspender when I’m in Canada and end up constantly having to translate myself! I will admit I love the sound of the word ‘stockings’. It feels a bit like saying the word cabernet or syrah. With these one can almost taste the word. With stockings one can almost feel them. I have to bail on ‘sussies’ though. It seems a pet name to which this foreigner is not entitled.

– For me, a garter suggests the old-style elastic around a leg, and so that reduces the erotic effect of the word. As for the US dislike of ‘knickers’, I would point out that for us ‘underpants’ is extremely non-erotic, since over here it means a man’s underwear. Here we could compromise on ‘panties’, I suggest. But I part company with my fellow Brits in disliking the word ‘sussies’. Too flimsy a word, making me picture a bit of elastic round the waist with thin, ribbony straps. A woman can’t be ‘heavily’ or ‘tautly’ suspendered (a turn-on, I quite agree) when she’s wearing sussies!

– Like some of the other US-based posters, the term garterbelt was all I heard when growing up. There was something illicit in saying the word, let alone thinking about it. I am too young to recall when they were the norm, so therefore they were a racy item. Since I have been posting here, I have gotten used to the term suspender belt, but find it a little off-putting.

As for knickers, they are what little boys used to wear before being old enough for long pants. A shortening of the word “knickerbocker”. Also a long lost term for residents of New York, if I remember my early American history. They were also a horrid fashion fad for women in the early ’80s. Ugh. Now, I think of tap pants when I think of knickers.

And maybe I’m a bit prudish here, kids, but I can’t stand the word ‘panties’! Just saying it makes me feel a little fruity! I’ll stick with underwear, or undies, for short.

– You are quite right about the American sense of the word “knickers”. I would remind readers here in the USA that the most common use of the word these days is as the name of an American basketball team, the New York Knicks (short, as pointed out, for knickerbockers ie new yorkers).

My problem with the term “knickers” is that, when I read or hear it, somewhere in my consciousness I am plagued with mental images of seven foot tall African-American males taking layup shots while wearing panties! This is, at least for me, a disturbing rather than erotic image.

I have no problem with the word “panties”. From my earliest memories I can recall the mystery and excitement, the forbidden image of panties. Lace, satin, sheer, white, cream-coloured, baby blue, open crotch, tied at the side with satin bows, black and bewitching, red and slightly dangerous, panties were the holy grail. When I saw them on an attractive girl by accident the stimulation was powerful and immediate. When I was shown them by an attractive lady on purpose softly nestling against her treasures I was in heaven. In my mind panties and stockings go together like cigars and cognac, wine and roses or Mercedes and Benz.

“Undies” is the term my grandmother used for her laundry. “Underwear” is too masculine for me to use when referring to women’s lingerie. It conjures either my mother telling me to “pick up your underwear” or the men’s sections of countless retailers. Ah, but “lingerie” now there’s a word that starts the blood racing: lingerie. How it flows from the tongue… lingerie. Probably France’s greatest contribution to our culture since the can-can. I could wax poetic about women in fine lingerie.

Its clearly a matter of conditioning, probably dating from our early childhood, with a clear and marked transatlantic divide. When I hear or read Americans referring to women’s ‘underpants’ the effect is ghastly, as I am sure all British and Australian contributors will wholeheartedly agree. ‘Panties’ is acceptable, but, without doubt, to my ears ‘knickers’ is far, far more erotic. In England, ‘knickers’ is far and away the most frequent expression. I have never once heard a woman refer to her underwear as anything other than her knickers. The question is, ladies, what do you call yours?

Desire Luxury Rechargeable Clitoral Vibrator

Product Description

Voted ‘The World’s Best Vibrator’ by Good Housekeeping Magazine, unrivalled sensuality and stimulation are yours with the Desire Clitoral Vibrator. Delight in its silken silicone form, and surrender to wave upon wave of blissful sensation.

Good Housekeeping voted the Desire Clitoral Vibrator the best out of 27 vibrators, which were tried and tested by a panel of 270 women. It got an overall score of 74/100 and was a hit with 9 out of the 10 women who tried it.

Good Housekeeping said: “It has a great range of speeds and pulses and is surprisingly quiet for the intense sensations achieved.”

The pebble vibrator shape means the toy sits snugly in one hand, leaving the other free to wander. The tapered tip has been lovingly crafted to target your clitoris for unbridled exhilaration, while whisper-quiet yet powerful vibrations ensure discretion when required.

Keep your Desire Clitoral Vibrator to yourself for heavenly solo arousal, or hand it to your partner to add a thrilling new dimension to foreplay. For peak pleasure, always use with a generous helping of water-based lubricant.

Store your new vibrator in the toy case provided, away from dust, heat and direct sunlight. A small opening in the back of the case can fit the width of the USB cable for discreet charging.

Desire is a collection of luxurious sex toys expertly designed by Lovehoney with only one thing in mind: ultimate sexual happiness.

Key Features:

  • Voted ‘The World’s Best Vibrator’ by Good Housekeeping magazine
  • Luxurious waterproof silicone clitoral vibrator for intense stimulation
  • Shaped for precision stimulation of external pleasure points
  • 8 modes of vibration, each with 12 custom speeds of intensity
  • USB rechargeable for worldwide use and eco-friendly play
  • Fully charge for 90 minutes for 60 minutes of play
  • Features travel lock for peace of mind during transit
  • Comes with a luxurious storage case, in which the toy can be charged discreetly