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Tights, stockings, modesty

July 12, 2019 By Leave a Comment

– Do tights allow a woman a safety factor in not having to worry about accidentally showing too much?

An example was shown to me today. The lady who looks after the office services for the building was trying to sort out a problem in the office this morning and whilst bending over her skirt rode up very high. It was clear that she was wearing tights and no embarrassment occurred. However if she had been wearing stockings would she have allowed herself to bend over to such an extent?

– Like many others, I think a glimpse of stockinged thigh is worth much more than an eyeful of pantyhosed thigh and apart from being a gentleman and appearing not to have noticed, the advantage of an undisclosed sighting is that you may get another one!

At one time I was attracted to a lady in her ’30s with a curvacious figure who worked in a television rental shop. She wore the corporate navy blue suit but there was always something about her legs that suggested stockings rather than tights. There were no give away reinforced heels, seams or even bumps until one day she was kneeling on the floor fixing an aerial cable and she leant over exposing the profile of the lower hem of a girdle with, I think, rear and side suspenders through the tightly stretched fabric of her skirt.

So, she kept her modesty, but I got to know…

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A question of class and confidence

June 14, 2019 By Leave a Comment

– I’m a 35 year old female residing in New Orleans, Louisiana. A male friend I chat with on America Online introduced me to this forum and I thought readers might enjoy my own story and viewpoint on our ‘favourite subject’.

I’ve always enjoyed lingerie and dressing well, but during a ten year unfulfilling marriage I didn’t take a lot of time for either. Three years ago after my divorce, all that began to change. I started dating quite a lot. I found myself dressing much better both for work and certainly for dates. I also started chatting a lot on AOL. I would often ask guys how they liked a woman to dress and a great majority of the time, stockings and garters were included in the description. Like most women, I had never worn them but I decided to give them a try. I think it was the way they made me feel combined with the reaction I got from my dates that got me hooked.

I won’t tell you that I switched exclusively to wearing stockings. At first I just wore them in the bedroom but eventually I began wearing them on dates and finally under my dresses for work. I’ve always felt very sexy wearing them but if I had to use one word to describe how I feel wearing them it would be classy.

The more that I wore stockings and garters, the more I found myself wanting to wear them. I certainly found myself wearing dresses and skirts for work far more often than I had before. Since I began wearing them, I have met several women who wear stockings rather than pantyhose and I have found several common threads that seem to unite them. One is that they are generally professional women who dress very well to begin with. They tend to rarely wear pants and almost never for work. They tend to be in good shape, very self confident but unlike a lot of today’s working women they also seem to enjoy being women. I know that this description fits me and the other women I have met who enjoy stockings; I’m wondering if readers of this forum have found the same thing?

– It was good to read your post re your feelings about wearing nylon stockings and garterbelts. I have always thought such things added a lot of erotic allure. So I’m glad to see some women are actually catching on!

When I began seriously dating in my last year of high school, my girlfriend Betty always wore a garterbelt and sheer nylons when we went out. She had a rule, being protective of her virginity, that I could caress her legs up under her skirt but only to one hand width above her stocking tops! I always begged her to wear longer stockings! I have to tell you what a thrill it was to sit in a movie and caress her smooth sheer stocking clad legs and anticipate the even greater thrill to feel that limited bit of bare thigh as we would ‘make-out’ in the car afterwards! I think I got just as much excitement from that as the actual sex act when we began ‘going-all-the-way’

Now I know you will think this wierd of me, but one night during a weekend getaway at the shore, we were clowning around and she got me to try on a pair of her nylon stockings. Gad I loved the feeling!

But now for the weird part. I could not get the feeling of having those sheer gossamer nylon stockings on my legs out of my mind! I was compelled to buy a few pair and try them on. Before long I had several garterbelts and numerous pair of stockings. I was even wearing them out and about, under my pants. I know you will think this odd, but after all, you gals wear whatever you please, so why shouldn’t I?

– I just switched over to wearing stockings and a garterbelt five months ago, and I’m finding I love my silky soft fully fashioned stockings. They make me feel very sexy indeed. I have lots of skirts and dresses and I like feeling very feminine wearing them. Stockings make wearing them extra special because it’s a feeling I just can’t get with pantyhose.

– I just wish there were more women in the Phoenix, Arizona area that wore stockings as part of their regular business attire or even casual. I feel kind of alone in my liking for stockings.

– There’s no doubt in my mind that stockings are much classier – my experience is that it is a certain type of lady who wears them. I find it more exciting to come across someone who wears them on an everyday basis – I think it shows real independence because most will automatically chose pantyhose.

– Your comments about the type of lady that is attracted to the elegance and class of stockinged-attire matches my ‘male’ perspective. While I’m unsure whether my perspective is factual, or fantasy, I know my wife’s experience equates to the personal experience you shared with your posting.

After working in our family business for many years, she accepted a job at the headquarters of an ‘old school’ multinational corporation headquartered here in Atlanta.

She started working out regularly at a health club shortly after her re-entry to the business world. As she lost weight and toned up, she gained i ‘nterest in feminine attire. She agreed to wear stockings on more formal occasions, and expressed appreciation for the positive feedback. She commented often that she felt more elegant when clad in stockings, and she began wearing stockings to work.

My observations of ladies I’ve noticed wearing stockings and garters is they appear more upscale, fit, and confident. Maybe it’s what I look to see, or maybe it’s the ‘look’ that catches my eyes. But, from my male perspective, confident women clad with the finished touch of stockings ALWAYS attract my visual attention. They leave a distinct image of tasteful class and elegance.

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Wearing stockings in bed

May 10, 2019 By Leave a Comment

– I wear stockings and suspenders every day for work, but I also wear them in bed every night without fail. My partner loves this of course, but I do it because I just love the look and feel. I would just like to stress that I by no means put on stockings soley for salacious purposes but genuinely because I adore the look and feel in bed. I love them during the day too but for different reasons, comfort, mild flirtation etc. I wear them every night without fail! I know that there will be people reading this post thinking ” yeah right… “, but it is all true. Discuss!

– You are a dream come true! Your partner is very, very, very lucky!

– You’re not the only one who loves to wear stockings and suspenders to bed, I used to live with a woman years ago who had the same thoughts that you have. Best of all, I just loved the way her stockings would feel against my naked body as we slept together, I was under constant arousal… I sure miss that today.

– I have always loved/fantasised about the concept. It’s incredibly alluring and arousing. This is one of the traits of what I have always considered the ‘ultimate woman’. The next best is when a woman wakes up in the morning, and immediately dons her RHTs, wearing them under her nightgown and housecoat as she goes about her early morning routine, preparing breakfast, etc. – she just can’t bear (pun?) to walk around without her stockings.

– My partner frequently used to and it was heaven – keep it up! It’s good to hear there are girls that think like you around!

– Whenever my fiancee wears stockings (usually about three times a week) she always keeps them on to come to bed! However, I do recall one time when one of the metal adjuster clips on her suspender belt gave me a nasty nick in my old boy! Still it reinstates my Morning Glory when I wake up with the mother of all hangovers on a Sunday!

– I’ve been wearing stockings to bed for a few years now. Before bed, I remove the good pair I wore that day and don an older pair. Usually it’s the older pairs that have been worn and gone through the wash a few too many times. I also have three garterbelts that I also set aside for sleep wear. Again, they are a bit tattered and have been sewn and repaired several times. But also, on occasion, I wear a good pair during a romp with my b/f and keep them on over night.

I wear stockings in bed once in a while, but not all the time. I have an allergy to the plastic that the garter is made out of and when it is against my skin too long I get a reaction. Plus I save wearing stockings to bed for those times when my husband and I have extra time together. Then I wear my pink silk nightgown and FF stockings with my six strap garter belt and I love the feeling.

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What do you like best about wearing stockings?

April 12, 2019 By Leave a Comment

– Dear ladies and gentleman of the forum. What do you like best about wearing stockings? I find I love the feel of FF stockings. They are so silky soft they are a real treat to my legs. I also love the pull of the garters on my stockings. Does anyone else find this to be what they like best about wearing stockings?

– I would be other than a true gartered nylon stocking-clad legman were I to fail to respond to your inquiry. While I agree with both the quality and effect to which you allude regarding gartered nylon stockings, I would add that the utter allure of the touch-me shine of the nylon stocking is absolutely mesmerising. In addition, the virtual complete lack of stretch in the fabric renders a woman’s encased legs molded, firm and solid.

To slowly and passionately caress the well-proportioned, full, supple, shapely contours of a woman’s legs sheathed in smooth, very, very sheer, nylon stockings is an act in which I can engage for h o u r s…

– Thanks for responding, it’s good to hear what the men like about stockings. Come to think of it, I do like the shine of the FFs on my legs and often do touch my legs a great deal when sitting. I have noticed that the FF stockings outshine all others. The softness is my greatest attraction, I just can’t get over how soft and silky they feel on my legs. Then add to that the pull of the garters and it’s great. I think my husband’s reaction to the FF stockings is he likes the seams. I’ve noticed on a few occasions that he walks slightly behind me at times when I have on my FF stockings.

– As for another male’s opioion… I love to see stockings on a lady when she is outside and the sun is shining on her legs. The sun makes the nylon glisten, and that is just so sexy. Seeing a nyloned leg just glistening in the sun is fantastic. I just can’t keep my eyes off of them.

– I’m glad you mentioned the pull of the suspenders/garters. It must be a very sensual and delightful sensation. Do any of the other women members feel the same? As a man, I could mention the wonderful variety of textures – e.g. the fine stocking, the soft flesh of the thighs, the elastic and metal clasps of the suspenders (if the older type of suspender is worn, as it should); all in such a small area. Pantyhose or bare legs can’t match it! Also visually, the general colour of the stocking, the two-tone effect of the welt, the curve of the suspenders over the buttocks and thighs, and the arc created by the tug of taut suspenders… But one could go on and on!

– Some years ago one of the girl models in our English men’s magazine Mayfair said that she found that having stockings and suspenders on made her feel “very fruity” because she knew that underneath her skirt there was the uncovered gap between the tops of the stockings and her panties. I found this sexier than the pictures, even though she looked cute in her sussies. I suppose that it gave her an improper feeling of nudity in public. My former girlfriend said she felt funny when she first sat down in suspenders but later on rather enjoyed the pulling of the rear straps. She also enjoyed the “unprotected” feeling of wearing very wispy see-through panties with suspenders.

– I have to say the bumps. I run my hands down my legs as well for the smooth feel, but my favourite thing about stockings and suspenders is the bumps. It’s a comfort feeling to thumb them through my skirt. I’m only afraid that my skirts will develop faded bump circles, kind of like wallet-pocket…

I’m a guy who has worn stockings under business wear in cooler weather for decades. I love all of the things mentioned by the posters. I love the feel in the morning as I pull the long filmy stockings up first one leg and then the other, and then fastening the six garters tautly. I love the way the garters pull on the stockings, and the feel of the straps as they move with each step. I love the gentle leg massage that only comes with a gartered stocking. And finally, I love the wonderful feeling that under my clothing, I’m wearing stockings, and nobody knows.

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The man who will only date women in nylon

March 8, 2019 By Leave a Comment

– Dear Doctors Nylon out there: what am I to do? It appears I will only ask out women who wear nylon. Recently I eschewed making an approach to a couple of quite attractive women. The reason? Their ungodly bare legs. And, as more and more women adopt the bare legs look, this obviously narrows the field for the kind of women I will go out with. Still, I persevere. Believe it or not, there are still a few women out there who coat their legs in sheer nylon. And I will continue – almost quixotic like – in my quest for them.

– May I assume that, in the best of all worlds, you would only date women who wore stockings? So, I am taking from your post that you will face reality and accept that such women are exceedingly rare these days. (I am told that these goddesses comprise about 2% to 5% of the general female population.) You, like so many of us, have decided that to have a love life at all you will choose to date women who wear “nylons” of any ilk, i.e. tights and avoid women who are bare-legged. There, now I think I’ve got your point. Right?

My comment is as follows; I think you have it backwards. Instead of looking at the legs to determine their covering or lack thereof prior to making a dating decision, look instead at the total package and then determine if there is a real attraction.

Suppose you found an exceptionally attractive (intellectually, emotionally, spiritually, physically) young lady who shared your general interests, tastes and pastimes. Suppose this woman was always barelegged. But, in all other respects, she was quite outstanding. Choosing not to date her simply because she was not nylonically enlightened would be cruel. Indeed, this woman is a potential convert. You have a mission my friend to spread the good news!

From my personal experience it may be easier than you think. I am currently dating a Russian woman who never wore stockings. She was barelegged the first time I saw her. She is now completely enlightened and a strong advocate of our mutual fetish. She wears stockings every day. I have had similar experiences with several ladies. But, I have found that it is far easier to persuade foreign women to wear stockings than the domestic variety, at least here in the USA.

But, avoid a woman who will wear stockings only as a favour to you. This may seem like kindness and love on her part at first but it will soon become bartering. She will soon try to “trade” wearing stockings for some other consideration or concession on your part. And, you will soon find that the price of having her in stockings is quite high, maybe too high. Avoid these women. They keep score. You can never win. Besides, there are more than enough women out there who, once used to the joys of stockings, truly want to wear them for themselves. These are the best kind.

By the way, breaking up with a woman you have introduced to stockings is one of the worst break-ups of all. You lose a confirmed stockings wearer, a great little lovemaker, an accomplished flirt and you just know that some other man is going to enjoy her nyloned charms without having earned it. You also know how much easier it will be for her to attract a man once he sees that stockinged leg and bit of thigh. No woman teases like a woman in stockings. It changes her entire outlook. She reeks of self-confidence.

– My god, you could not make more sense!

– I don’t know… honestly, I’ve never had any trouble with getting the woman in my life to wear stockings and a garterbelt. All I’ve ever had to do is ask them and/or buy them some beautiful items… and voila!

For everyday, no… some of the women I’ve been involved with had jobs where it wasn’t practical but for the most part, no problem really.

– Thanks for your replies. To clarify, I am referring to nylons generally, not just stockings (in that case I’d pretty well never find anyone!). I agree that this is certainly an alternative approach: convert the barelegged woman to wearing stockings (or pantyhose). And it is something I have considered. I’m not quite sure why I’m so resistant to it. Maybe I think that a woman who is not wearing them somehow “in her being” lacks the kind of femininity and style I am looking for, and that if I have to “convert” someone it will be something of a battle, no matter how subtle. I’d rather approach someone who is “sufficiently feminine” in this respect, who dresses a certain way because she “loves” dressing that way – that it is “integrated into her soul” and who indeed dresses this way “for herself” – and therefore does not have to be converted, engendering possible interpersonal grievances for being somehow “made to change”. As I say, I’ve “got it” pretty bad – which I humorously call a malaise – hence my light-hearted appeal to “Doctors Nylon” on this site. But, hey, anything is possible.

Yes, trying to convert a woman is always a possibility, and perhaps I shy too much from doing it (though lord knows I’ve gone out with enough women in the past who were nylonless) but I find many women are resistant to “being converted” (so-called feminism and all – “I’m my own woman”, “nobody is going to tell me how to dress”). Therefore, I’d like to approach women who don’t need “to see the light”. I also find women who already dress this way sexier because they’ve “integrated” this style of dress as part of their core natures, as the people they truly are.

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Dreaming of stockings

January 11, 2019 By Leave a Comment

– I am having a tremendous phenomenon occur. Every few nights I dream about stockings and suspenders. This has been going on for several months. Does this happen to anyone else?

– It is odd that you mention this, because just last night I had a stocking-sighting dream in which I was part of some tour group, and somehow caught a sighting of the tour guide revealing a stocking top and garter straps. And all I could think of was how I just *had* to report this stocking sighting to the Stockings HQ discussion list! Alas, I can’t really remember any other details from the dream. It got a bit surreal (as most dreams do).

– I envy you those dreams! If you are the same woman who, a few days, wrote that you had been wearing stockings and suspenders for six months, thanks to the encouragement of a man in your life, I’d suggest your dreams are of awakening to full womanly sensuality. But I could be quite wrong! Anyway, keep dreaming of them!

– It looks like you might be right. Yes, I’ve been wearing them for only six months. There’s an interesting range of themes:

Exposure – I’m falling off things exposing my stockings and suspenders.

Intimacy – I’m in black corsetry with black stockings and kissing three different men.

Loss without them – I’m trying to get to events and cannot find my stockings.

And probably the best and most hilarious was a very simple dream where a pair of pantyhose on clothes pegs hovered beside my bed and then were suddenly sucked underneath to disappear forever into the darkness.

In any case, I am very appreciative to have been exposed to them.

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The appeal of reinforced toes

December 14, 2018 By Leave a Comment

– I have always loved reinforced toes – and it’s even better if they’re with reinforced heels – particularly poking through open toed shoes or sandals. As you know, many so-called contemporary fashion experts tell women these days to buy ‘nude-toe’ stockings because reinforced toes, they say, are ugly or tacky. In fact, CNN did a consumer segment on nylons about a year ago, and, among other things poked fun at reinforecd toes (ie. “aye, my toes are a different colour from the rest of my feet”!). They also evaluated the new form of “no toes” stockings to wear with sandals, so it looks like the woman is not wearing stockings at all because her toes are uncovered. Shriek! Of course you and I know reinforced toes are the sexiest part!

– I cannot believe I’m not alone! I have been told this fetish for large reinforced toes is one of a kind! I have collected nylons and pantyhose for years and am always looking for huge reinforced toes that are very dark and contrast with the leg. In the mid to late ’80s I sourced a brand of pantyhose called Albert’s and the style was “control top plus”. The “plus” was a very large heavier reinforced toe. Well once I saw these I purchased many pairs (about 350 pairs) and am now down to about 150 pairs and starting to hunt for a replacement. I have also noticed a move in the fashion world to eliminate the so called ugly or tacky reinforced toe. If we go back to the ’50s, women wore open toed mules with RHTs for all to see and it was not considered ugly.

– I love those reinforced toes (even when they’re not enormous). Too bad the trend seems to be away from them. It wasn’t enough to make “sandal toe” hose, now they’re coming out with a new pantyhose which has the toe section cut out altogether… probably the result of the preoccupation with feet that is rampant in the media today in America. They think it is sexier to expose the toes, but I feel just the opposite, and I’m sure you would agree…

There is a preoccupation in magazines about showing actresses with exposed feet. What’s with that? Is this a new form of foot fetish? But of course, of course, none of these women are ever shown in stockinged feet. Although at one time – perhaps as recently as five years ago – some would have been so depicted. I think this unfortunately is because current fashion trends consider it gauche to show exposed feet in nylons.

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Suspenders and garters: a matter of language

December 9, 2018 By Leave a Comment

– I’m intrigued by the different effect on me of the word ‘suspender’ and the transatlantic ‘garter’. If I read, or especially hear from the woman, the word suspender or suspender belt, I get a strong erotic charge, just from the sound. I don’t, however, get the same feeling from garter or garter belt – even though they are the same thing. I guess the sound and the meaning become woven together early on in life. What do others think?

– Same here! I know just what you mean. For some reason the word ‘garters’ or ‘garter belt’ just don’t do anything for me, even though I know exactly what they mean. On the other hand, the words ‘suspenders’, ‘sussies’ or ‘suspender belt’, whether in print or spoken (particularly by a woman) cause me instant and intense arousal. I’m glad you’ve brought this point up, because I thought I was the only one. Any more comments on this theme, anyone?

– I agree with both of you. Mention of suspenders, suspender belts and sussies quickly turns me on, but garters and garter belts only produce mild “excitement”. I also agree that it is even more of a turn on when the various references to suspenders are spoken by women, or written by women in postings here or in the chat zone.

I think the phrase which has me feeling erotic in an instant is “my stockings are very heavily suspendered”. Thoughts of stocking tops stretched heavily by extremely taut suspenders immediately invade my imagination. Funny that “my stockings are very heavily gartered” don’t have the same effect!

– To me, I’d always heard the term garter belt. I had never heard the term suspenders until a British lady working in a lingerie shop in Phoenix introduced me to the term. I thought wow, that’s different and I guess appropriate. But I like the term garter and garter belt best.

– Can you imagine being “turned on” when a women tells you she’s wearing braces? Probably not. But, here in the USA, suspenders are what you call braces in the UK.

We in the USA recognise the term for the article of lingerie which holds up a woman’s stockings as a garterbelt. On the other hand, we recognise the term for the accessory which holds up a man’s pants as “suspenders.”

“Sussies” is a uniquely British term and it seems to me only natural that hearing it (especially from a woman) would stimulate the imagination (and some other of the nether regions) of an Englishman. However, to my American ear, a beautiful woman telling me that she is wearing suspenders only brings to mind a somewhat masculine image of a woman wearing what you call braces. Decidedly unerotic wouldn’t you agree?

I know that when I have read British erotica and have encountered the term “suspenders” it has had a somewhat cooling effect. Not the effect I was hoping for. I imagine it must be the same for my counterpart on your side of the pond when you read American erotica and in the middle of an especially heated passage find the term “garterbelt”

Someone once observed that the English and the Americans were two great peoples separated by a common language. I don’t even want to tell you of my problems with “knickers” and “waspies!”

– I’m a Canadian with a British lover. Always I have heard the term ‘garterbelt’. But since my lover is practically in love with stockings and suspenders, I’ve probably heard this term far more times in the last year and a half than I’ve heard ‘garterbelt’ over all the years prior.

I now find that I often use the word suspender when I’m in Canada and end up constantly having to translate myself! I will admit I love the sound of the word ‘stockings’. It feels a bit like saying the word cabernet or syrah. With these one can almost taste the word. With stockings one can almost feel them. I have to bail on ‘sussies’ though. It seems a pet name to which this foreigner is not entitled.

– For me, a garter suggests the old-style elastic around a leg, and so that reduces the erotic effect of the word. As for the US dislike of ‘knickers’, I would point out that for us ‘underpants’ is extremely non-erotic, since over here it means a man’s underwear. Here we could compromise on ‘panties’, I suggest. But I part company with my fellow Brits in disliking the word ‘sussies’. Too flimsy a word, making me picture a bit of elastic round the waist with thin, ribbony straps. A woman can’t be ‘heavily’ or ‘tautly’ suspendered (a turn-on, I quite agree) when she’s wearing sussies!

– Like some of the other US-based posters, the term garterbelt was all I heard when growing up. There was something illicit in saying the word, let alone thinking about it. I am too young to recall when they were the norm, so therefore they were a racy item. Since I have been posting here, I have gotten used to the term suspender belt, but find it a little off-putting.

As for knickers, they are what little boys used to wear before being old enough for long pants. A shortening of the word “knickerbocker”. Also a long lost term for residents of New York, if I remember my early American history. They were also a horrid fashion fad for women in the early ’80s. Ugh. Now, I think of tap pants when I think of knickers.

And maybe I’m a bit prudish here, kids, but I can’t stand the word ‘panties’! Just saying it makes me feel a little fruity! I’ll stick with underwear, or undies, for short.

– You are quite right about the American sense of the word “knickers”. I would remind readers here in the USA that the most common use of the word these days is as the name of an American basketball team, the New York Knicks (short, as pointed out, for knickerbockers ie new yorkers).

My problem with the term “knickers” is that, when I read or hear it, somewhere in my consciousness I am plagued with mental images of seven foot tall African-American males taking layup shots while wearing panties! This is, at least for me, a disturbing rather than erotic image.

I have no problem with the word “panties”. From my earliest memories I can recall the mystery and excitement, the forbidden image of panties. Lace, satin, sheer, white, cream-coloured, baby blue, open crotch, tied at the side with satin bows, black and bewitching, red and slightly dangerous, panties were the holy grail. When I saw them on an attractive girl by accident the stimulation was powerful and immediate. When I was shown them by an attractive lady on purpose softly nestling against her treasures I was in heaven. In my mind panties and stockings go together like cigars and cognac, wine and roses or Mercedes and Benz.

“Undies” is the term my grandmother used for her laundry. “Underwear” is too masculine for me to use when referring to women’s lingerie. It conjures either my mother telling me to “pick up your underwear” or the men’s sections of countless retailers. Ah, but “lingerie” now there’s a word that starts the blood racing: lingerie. How it flows from the tongue… lingerie. Probably France’s greatest contribution to our culture since the can-can. I could wax poetic about women in fine lingerie.

Its clearly a matter of conditioning, probably dating from our early childhood, with a clear and marked transatlantic divide. When I hear or read Americans referring to women’s ‘underpants’ the effect is ghastly, as I am sure all British and Australian contributors will wholeheartedly agree. ‘Panties’ is acceptable, but, without doubt, to my ears ‘knickers’ is far, far more erotic. In England, ‘knickers’ is far and away the most frequent expression. I have never once heard a woman refer to her underwear as anything other than her knickers. The question is, ladies, what do you call yours?

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Bare legs are sexy? Dream on…

October 12, 2018 By Leave a Comment

– I would like to comment on the disturbing phenomenon of a lack of hosiery on women (particularly in the US where it has reached epidemic proportions) and offer a possible reason for it.

Forget for a moment about stockings – here we are concerned with pantyhose (tights). For men old enough to remember, consider how we felt when pantyhose became dominant over gartered stockings: perhaps the biggest objection from males was that pantyhose prevented “access”. It was so much easier to, shall we say, “pet”, when a female was not covered to the waist by a fabric that was not easily removable. With stockings, only the panties (knickers) stood in our way, and they could be gotten around. Not so with pantyhose.

So, a few generations of women grew up never wearing stockings, only pantyhose. In recent years, these young ladies have seen their sexy movie and TV stars wearing “no pantyhose”. Have they perhaps perceived that this is very sexy, because these media stars are suggesting “easy access”? And might not the stars have intended to convey this very message? I think this may be a partial explanation of what we are seeing. Since stockings have generally been much less available that pantyhose, the younger generation, not considering the alternative of wearing stockings, might very well conclude that “no-pantyhose is sexy” which, to them, equals “bare legs are sexy”.

Hopefully, newer generations will become more aware of stockings (how that will happen is another area of discussion) and realise that they are even more sexy than no hosiery. What do you think?

– I think that it is slowly changing thanks to the recent movie Moulin Rouge… at least short term. My fiance works for a major lingerie store found in most malls, and she said that she had about eight girls come in on her last day of work, and six on the day before that asking for… this is the funny part… “Moulin Rouge pantyhose” LOL! They didn’t know that they were called stay ups or stockings. None of the sales were individual… seems like friends are getting together and getting curious… then heading to Victoria’s to buy a pair. We’ll see what happens… and if it lasts.

According to her guesstimates… all were ages 17 to 20, with the oldest not possibly being older than 22.

– I would consider this a brief phenomenon, based on the Christina Aguilera influence. For those of us old enough to remember, this smacks of the whole bustier thing that happened in the 80s after Madonna hit the scene. It fizzled too.

– I’m not sure what the bare legs phenomenon is all about. It may be a combo of things – certainly the current fashion ‘style’, mixed with easy casual wear and the decline in ‘formal’ femininity. This has really been where the present generation of young women diverts from previous ones. In past generations women always seemed to spend much more time on looking good and dressing well – and ‘wanted’ to. Not so today. (Yet many young women still consider themselves feminine). In addition, a great many women have come to hate nylon hosiery of any kind. They find it restrictive and don’t necessarily equate femininity with having to wear it. I find bare legs tacky, just as I find so much of current fashion, esp among young women (low-rise pants and flares, bulbous and thick-soled boots, chunky 70s-era platform shoes) tasteless. But it may be only a trend. My fear is that a generation-and-a-half of young women are growing up not even wearing pantyhose let alone stockings…

However, if a campaign about stockings (not pantyhose) was directed at them – demonstrating how sexy, chic (esp with patterns) and non-restrictive (compared to p’hose) they are, it may turn some corner… As for Moulin Rouge my hunch is also that it will be a flash in the pan. The movie isn’t that popular, there’s little ‘buzz’ around it (except the Aguilera video, which seems to be denounced as ‘tarty’) and I don’t think it will have lasting effect. In fact on the Vogue web site, when asked if the movie would have influence on trends the few replies were directed towards foundation garments – bustiers and corsets. Not one mention about good ol’ stockings.

– While cultural influences such as movies and celebrities may influence fads as has been suggested, the real influence on fashion is values.

Correspondents here often point to the decline of elegance in America to the influence of “Libbers”. They are right in my opinion. I think the socio-political climate associated with “respect” is the real issue.

Where in America are you most likely to see elegantly dressed ladies that are dressed in gartered stockings? The opera and the Kentucky Derby are examples where large numbers of women plan their elegance for weeks in advance.

US society moves at such a fast pace that men and women view elegance as unaffordable from a time perspective. It’s in US locations where the pace is slower that elegance is most often displayed.

This subject has promoted much personal thought the past few weeks. A celebrity won’t influence the return of elegance. A movie won’t influence the return of elegance. Only significant social change related to respect for others will bring about this change, Slowly, but surely, we are moving away from elegance.

I conclude that we can only influence the change within ourselves, and influence change among those we “touch” every day with a positive, gracious example of how to express class and project elegance.

I’m wearing a business suit, white shirt, and silk tie to work today. I’m going to greet everyone I meet today with a smile, and treat each individual with respect and dignity.

– I also tend to agree that Moulin Rouge will have a relatively short and perhaps spectacular shelf life. Whilst confessing to be a bit of a “movie buff” I cannot exactly justify the reason, except that it will never join the musical evergreens such as Singing in the Rain, or the original Can Can.

The fashions will probably encourage some of the more enquiring minds to ask about the portrayed leg fashions, but it will be above the intelligence of the hordes of 18+ olds with flared pants and shapeless chunks for shoes. Society is what has to change in order to encourage even a little more class in the way ladies present themselves.

– I am in complete agreement. I was astonished by an article in the paper here last week about young ladies getting dressed up for the prom. Apparently, in addition to the whole stockings issue, this self-same generation has never worn a pair of proper high heeled shoes! When being assisted with their dresses, they had to have lessons in how to walk properly in heels, instead of clunking around flat-footed like horses. Now, isn’t that sad? It’s a telling thing that young girls have no proper mother figure to teach them posture, grace, hell even proper manners!

Could we be in need for the return of finishing schools? And while we’re on the subject, there should be the same thing for young boys – to learn how to eat properly, stand when a lady enters the room, etc. The only young boys I see of late who are polite (but still boisterous) go to Catholic boys school near my office.

– I hate to agree with everybody here, but there does seem to be a lack of knowledge on how to dress. Every weekend I get at least two or three girls in the shop who do not know the difference between stockings, hold-ups and tights. I have to point out on my body where they come to and double check at the counter (my apologies to any ladies who have bought stockings from me as I have got a few strange looks and ‘yes I know they are stockings’).

I am now changing my packaging: blue with an illustration of a girl in tights for tights and pink with an illustration of a girl in stockings for stockings and hold-ups. Perhaps it would be easier if I just changed the name to ‘Moulin Rouge Tights’.

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Ladders: attractive or not?

September 14, 2018 By Leave a Comment

– Here’s an issue I’d love to test the forum’s opinions on: are ladders (runs) in stockings sexy? I’m not talking the obviously ripped nylon of the punk era, just small runs, caused accidentally through normal wear and tear.

To me they hint at both the magical sheer nature of the nylon and at a certain vulnerability that I find most alluring. Am I alone? Does anyone else have any laddered stockings anecdotes to share?

– I wholeheartedly agree. I have always found them alluring. And I don’t think that women don’t notice. A story: I had invited a female friend (admittedly a tease) over one time. She was kneeling on the floor going through my record collection (yes, it was in those days when women actually wore nylons). Her back was towards me and the soles of her shoeless tan-coloured stocking feet were showing. She quickly looked down at a long run starting from the end of one foot’s reinforced toe and running up the sole of her foot and past her calf under her trouser leg. “Oh, ” she said, looking at me and gauging my reaction, “I have a run in my stocking.” Runs are quite sexy. And, I agree, NOT when they’re deliberately done by those of the spiky-haired punk class as some sort of bohemian hard-edge ‘fashion’ statement.

– I absolutely agree. I have vivid memories of a school trip to Switzerland many years ago and me (as an impressionable schoolboy) being transfixed by the laddered black stocking of one of the (bit tarty) older girls in the party.

I think they are definitely sexier on black/dark tights. In fact I have been known to draw attention to one so that my colleague went and changed them. I was then able to nip into the ladies and grab her discarded and laddered tights from the bin. Am I kinky or is this not as uncommon as I think? But yes you’re dead right – ladders are sexy.

– Sorry guys, I must disagree. Runs are something to be avoided at all costs. They really are unsightly. But since you bring it up, what is it about them that turns you on? Is this a universal male thing or only for you who love nylons?

– Absolutely not! Let’s keep a good standard here.

– I absolutely think that a run in a stockings is the sexiest thing a woman could flaunt, second only to RHT stockings.

I think it’s kinda slutty and provocative. A few years ago I went to a Halloween party and this one girl was dressed up as a stewardess. She had tons of makeup on and her blouse was half open and she had tons of runs in her nylons (she was wearing pantyhose not stockings). I asked her what she was supposed to be and she said a “sky slut”. It goes to prove, ladders are enticing!

– Runs (ladders) in stockings are something to be taken care of. My wife keeps spare stockings in her purse when we go out as well as in the car glove compartment. She also has spares at work. That’s the “efficiency” of stockings vs. pantyhose – with two pairs you actually get three sets!

Having previously agreed that they are attractive, perhaps my view needs a little clarification. Most of us would, I am certain, find our gaze attracted to stockings which contain a ladder. I am still of the opinion that, once you’ve noticed it, a ladder can look very sexy. It depends perhaps on where and how bad a ladder it is. I would agree with the various correspondents who feel that unladdered stockings are better but that doesn’t stop a ladder from looking sexy. I’m going to beg to differ from most of you.

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